Growing Beyond White Approval

Growing Beyond White Approval | Laurielle Noel | Diversity Dish

Growing beyond white approval is what Laurielle Noel says she’s doing now.

So much of the way we’re socialized is based on white approval and comfort. Listen in on this conversation where Laurielle shares a story that will have you saying “What?” and also saying “YES!!”

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Growing Beyond White Approval | Laurielle Noel | Diversity Dish

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Hey, has anyone ever told you that you were not capable of doing something or maybe they doubted your ability or your intelligence? If so, you’ll definitely want to go back and listen to the last episode where Hervey Heriveaux talked about his trials and how he overcame the doubt that people had in him and this retired CEO at 50 years old. We’ll also share with you why it’s important to have a legacy in everything that you do. But for now, let’s get into this episode with Laurielle Noel,

Welcome to diversity dish, where we’re dishing on everything. Diversity, equity, inclusion, and justice related. My name is Sedruola Mariska, and we’re bridging the gap between what needs to be said and what needs to be heard. Those individual experiences that are often ignored, or just simply dismissed. Sometimes I’m dining alone. Sometimes I’m dining with friends and sometimes I’m dining a la cart, no matter how I’m dining, it promises to be delicious. Let’s dig in.

Thank you for being here. Before we get into our episode, I’d like to send a shout out to my supporters over at Patreon. Those people who are experiencing extra training, exclusive audio, exclusive podcasts, articles, and workshops. They’re the ones who are helping me continue this work and who helps support this podcast. If you’d like to find out how you can become a patron, find me over@patrionpatrion.com backslash Sedruola Maruska. Now let’s get into our episode.

Hey Laurielle

How Are you? Thank you so much for inviting me. Absolutely.

So full disclosure. Laurielle is actually my baby sister. She’s on the show for more reasons than just that my sister is a formidable woman. And I’m going to tell you a little bit more about her so that you can know exactly who’s serving you up today. She is the co-owner and chief operating officer at Burrows, Inc. And the sweet spot she’s been in that position since 2012 beyond her responsibilities as an operations, she is also co-producer and also a performer. But prior to that, Laurielle graduated Georgetown law in 1999. She worked at Pricewaterhouse Coopers in both New York, city and Paris. And she’s a serial entrepreneur who found herself as a real estate agent in Manhattan. Then she found this, Hey, you sound, you sound really impressive on paper, baby.

So you meet me in person too, but so

Laurie, oh, it is. It’s good to see you or have you here. So I like to start all the interviews with kind of the same questions because it kind of breaks the ice. I know you get on and you’re just all leased up and you’re just a little nervous, but I want to ask you, what are you passionate about right now, right now in your life right now? What are you pressing?

I’m passionate about staying as stress-free as possible, does that count? Oh, we are going through a confluence of crises unprecedented in my lifetime and my parents’ lifetime. And so I’m passionate about walking almost five miles a day, eating healthy, sleeping enough hours every day. And um, me and my partner, we have a no stress zone here and that we’re passionate about it, keeping that going, uh, as long as it’s.

Unapologetic Black Woman – Takirra Winfield Dixon

Takirra Winfield Dixon | Unapologetic Black Woman

“It’s so important for Black women to own or own tables.” – Takirra Winfield Dixon

That’s just one of the many gems that Takirra dropped in this episode. Takirra is an unapologetic Black woman whose mission is to help other Black women be the same. In this conversation we talk about what it means to be an unapologetic Black woman and why it’s so important for Black women to build their own tables. We also talk about hair, Black spaces and why showing up is so important. We had a great conversation that I think you’ll learn from and enjoy.

Folks are too comfortable thanking us instead of respecting us. - Quote by Takirra Winfield Dixon

Here are the many ways you can learn more about Takirra Winfield Dixon and how you can work with her to help formulate your own voice.

The Grio article:

“Honestie Hodges and the intersectional systemic racism of Black women and girls” – https://thegrio.com/2021/03/16/intersectional-racism-black-women-girls/

Salon Articles:

“Does this smart watch come with an app to deal with casual racism”

“My college’s response to a Nazi march taught me about the “true America” 

“I’m a Black woman, not a “woman of color.” Here’s why I make that distinction”


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Speaker 1 (00:00:00):

Are you having trouble sleeping, maybe you’re snoring, or maybe you just don’t feel rested in the morning and you feel like your body still needs a little bit more. Well, if that’s the case, then you should take a listen to our last episode with Currys, like air, where she talked to us about the reasons why we may not be sleeping as well, and especially how that may be affecting the black community. But before you do that, let’s take a listen to this episode with tequila, Winfield, Dixon,

Speaker 2 (00:00:40):

Welcome to diversity dish where we’re dishing on everything. Diversity, equity, inclusion, and justice related. My name is central and Mariska, and we’re bridging the gap between what needs to be said and what needs to be heard. Those individual experiences that are often ignored or simply dismissed. Sometimes I’m dining alone. Sometimes I’m dining with friends and sometimes I’m dining. I Lockhart, no matter how I’m dining, it promises to be delicious. Let’s dig in

Speaker 1 (00:01:22):

Kira Windfield Dickson served as a political appointee in president Barack Obama’s administration. She’s currently the strategic advisor to president Obama’s U S secretary of education. John B. King Jr. To cure also served for six years as a senior member of Martin O’Malley’s gubernatorial administration. She’s a proud Howard alum, a graduate of the university of Maryland and has experienced as a communications consultant Takirra has dedicated her career to elevating and uplifting stories and the experiences of black women. Oh my goodness. Takirra, I cannot tell you how excited I am to have you on diversity dish. I’m flattered. Oh my goodness. Thank you so much for coming on. I will tell you that I didn’t even know who you were. I don’t think until like the day I sent you a message and said, will you please be on me?

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Your policies suck, that’s why we have a problem

Your policies suck, that's why we have this problem | Sedruola Maruska

We moved a lot when we were young. My immigrant father was focused on getting an education, and providing for his family. So, wherever the opportunities were, that’s where we went.

Which is why in the summer of 1977 we moved to Salt Lake City, Utah. My dad was accepted into the University of Utah’s doctorate program so we moved into family student housing. I was 9 years old.

When my brother and I started school we were the only two Black children in a school of over 200 students. We stood out at a time when I didn’t want to stand out.

Salt Lake City

During our time in Salt Lake City I remember wondering a lot about the way I looked. I asked my mom why I couldn’t wear my hair down instead of in braids. I’d stand in front of the bathroom mirror and pull up my nose to be more “pointy” like my friends. At nine years old we’re formulating our perceptions of ourselves. We’re figuring out where we fit in the world and I didn’t fit.

One day (and this is relayed to me by a friend I found on Facebook years later) while in class a boy was teasing me about my color. He started talking about how I looked like poop, laughing and carrying on. As I’m enduring this abuse, I begin to cry and complain. Instead of the boy being disciplined, the teacher told me “If you can’t stop disrupting class, you’ll need to go out in the hall.” I’m nine years old and I have to control my reaction to the abuse being inflicted on me by a white child.

I was sent to the hall.

Personally, I don’t remember that moment. I remember others with the same theme. I’m the problem so I need to suck it up. Endure what’s happening. Be strong. Be the bigger person, the better person. While those who are inflicting the pain, go unpunished. Because they’re white and so therefore they must be right.

Your policies suck, that's why we have this problem | Sedruola Maruska

Ignoring The Signs

As I look around the country right now, I’m reminded of that ignorance. We watched as armed white people storm the capital building with no repercussion. We watched as police officers looked the other way to allow these terrorists to cross barricades, take selfies with the perpetrators and claim overwhelm, while the lawmakers inside had to cower for their lives.

All over social media parallels are being drawn on the different responses to acts of terrorism when the perpetrators are white vs. when people of color and Black people are protesting policies that threaten their lives.

Just like in my fourth grade classroom where I became the problem and I was disciplined, Black and Brown people are always dealt with harsher than white people. Here’s the kicker, it happens all across the country in every discipline and industry.

It starts with students and goes through the workforce. It’s easier to punish the victims than it is to confront a system that benefits you and demand that system change.

White terrorism

What’s the consequence? The consequence is white terrorists running around the country killing with impunity and being treated as human. While those they are terrorizing are treated like the problem.

White people are allowed to do as they please when they have a “bad day” while the rest of us must swallow our pain.

White people are allowed to have mental health issues while the rest of us are “too sensitive” or “genetically prone to violence.”

White people are allowed to be angry, protest, lash out maim and kill while their vegan, vacation and huger needs are taken care of. The rest of us better be happy we didn’t die at the scene.

The consequence, as I wrote in this article is a country where everything and everyone suffers because of tolerance rather than justice. We, all of us, are left reeling and wondering what’s the next logical step to take? What part can we play in creating change?

Proof in Policy

Companies are creating products to placate when we know it’s changes in their policies that create real change. Yes, we appreciate removing “Aunt Jemima” from your products, but what does your C-Suite look like? Thanks for putting out that statement, but are your employees of color comfortable in your culture?

Corporations have the power to push governments to make real policy changes needed to move the needle. Yet, in Georgia, and across the country, where these giants with power are headquartered, voter suppression laws are running rampant. The wording is more nuanced and vague, but we know, we ALL know they’re intentionally directed at people of color, especially Black people.

It’s time to stop pretending we don’t know what do to, and do what we do know. Do the hard things. Corporations are made up of people. Those people need to stop hiding and do better. Say NO. Look to the future and make the hard decisions in the present. Invest in your people, your policies and revamping your cultures.

We the people appreciate the surface stuff, but we’d all, including yourselves, be better served with real policy changes and more bravery.